Episode #4 – Pick Your Poison


This week on THiRD SHiFT:  Eric goes over Battleplan 13. The guys talk about Battleborn and their experience with Pendles, hero choice, introducing another hero class, and answer questions from the Mailbag.

SHiFT Codes:

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BB – Epic Loot Pack: ZCKTJ-XFBSK-Z5WXT-FKXTT-HCZB9

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Episode Credits


MATT: What’s up, everybody? Welcome to the fourth episode of THiRD SHiFT. I’m one of your hosts, Matt, and with me as always is our other host, Eric. Eric, how the hell you been this week?

ERIC: Oh, doing great. This week, as per usual, I’ve been playing some Battleborn, getting in a lot of matches, actually, with Pendles, mostly against him. I’ve played him a few times myself, but he wasn’t my jam. Besides that, I’ve been getting back in the groove in another game I play, World of Warcraft, and we’ve been prepping for my daughter’s upcoming birthday, so putting together all sorts of little goodies bags and figuring out what foods we need, all that good stuff. So, yeah, that’s me. What about you, buddy?

MATT: Well, all this week, I’ve been in South Dakota, so I haven’t been playing anything. But it has been amazing seeing all the sights Mount Rushmore, drove out to Devils Tower, Badlands National Park. It’s just been amazing. So that’s this week for us. And pulling back the curtain a little bit here for you, we’re recording a day early because our usual recording day, Thursday, is a travel day for me. So I’m going to let Eric go ahead and fill you in on what happened this week in Gearbox, and I’ll be back for the topics.

ERIC: To start things off, there were a couple SHiFT Codes released, one being for Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel, and the other being an Epic Loot Pack in Battleborn. If you haven’t got those already, check out our show notes below and you can pick those up. Secondly, I wanted to go ahead and make that on PC only, August 13th, the Gears of Battle will be hosting a Battleborn competition. There’ll be three parts to this thing and Gearbox themselves will be offering SHiFT Codes for Epic Loot Packs as rewards, and accumulating in a third tournament where $300 will be given away to the winners. Anyone’s free to enter playing on the PC. You must have a full team. If you want any other details, please go to the link below in our show notes and check that out. In the Battleplan this week, they went ahead and posted a couple nerfs to Mellka. It was her base health and some damage, if I’m not mistaken. If you want some more info on that, please check out the Battleplan. And lastly, this weekend, starting August 5th is a Double XP Weekend, so make sure you guys pop in Battleborn and get ready to level your Pendles up. Hope to see you guys there. And that’ll wrap it up for This Week at Gearbox.

MATT: What are talking about this week?

ERIC: Well, Matt, I was thinking this week we would go ahead and discuss Pendles, obviously. We’ve had a full week to play with him. And upcoming players that didn’t have the Season Pass or the Digital Deluxe edition will finally get their hands on him. So I figured we’d talk about our matches with him and against him, and what we think overall, and his place in the Battleborn world. Every night, basically, I’ve been on and playing, like I stated earlier. And I’ve been playing against Pendles pretty much every match guaranteed. And after playing with him against Phoebe, Orendi and Alani, I can say that Alani I had the most trouble with dealing with Pendles and I would have the least difficulty with Phoebe. I know that a lot of people have been stating in the forums, you know, either one way or the other whether he’s overpowered or underpowered. But based off what I’ve done, I can state that I think he’s perfect where he’s at. He comes in, he sneaks around, he gets behind you, he poisons you, he comes and does some hits. But you have ample time, because he doesn’t hit that hard, to either get away or turn around and engage him. And especially with Phoeb, I found that no matter when he engaged me, I had no problem turning around and going one-on-one with him and usually could win that fight. And even if it was looking like I couldn’t, I could always Phasegate out, so no problems there. And with Orendi, obviously, she got that change to her Helix where she can use Shadowfire Pilar and it reveals enemies all around her, no matter where she is. That’s helpful against Pendles. But to be truthful, I didn’t really think it was that big of a deal either way because, simply put, whenever he would come and engage me, I would just Nullify, back off and decide whether or not to go after him or just get the heck out of dodge, find the group and/or the Sentry to protect me. Alani was where I was having some issues because unless I chose her Riptide with the follow option, when he got a hold of me it was just me healing and backing off, trying to find the group again or Sentry if I was in Incursion. But if I couldn’t do that, I was pretty much in a bad place because I couldn’t out-damage him. And I don’t know if that’s just me as a player or if he is just more DPS than she is. I’m not quite sure. But I did have trouble.

MATT: So for someone who hates Alanis, maybe you should be Pendles and then you can kill her a lot is basically what you’re saying.

ERIC: There you go, yes.

MATT: So I’m going to be Pendles forever, all the time.

ERIC: Go ahead. Except for we already have a team member who chooses Pendles every time, so you’re out of luck, buddy.

MATT: Not if I pick him first.

ERIC: Yeah. Delete all your loadouts so you get in there faster, right?

MATT: That was a low blow.

ERIC: So before we talk about it a little bit more, how were your couple days you did have playing against and with Pendles?

MATT: Yeah, I think in the couple days before I went on vacation, I was able to play one actual versus match with him and, like you said, mostly been playing against him guaranteed all the time for the matches I did play, and I’m pretty much right with you. When we first saw his Helix, his abilities and all that stuff, I was thinking he had a chance to be overpowered because you see that you can throw Life Steal on two of his different things. You can up his damage here and there. Basically, he can upgrade everything. And it sounds on paper like he would be totally OP. But in practice, he doesn’t seem to do enough burst damage to really be overpowered. I mean, if you have no health and you’re trying to run back to the base and he catches you, I mean, that’s basically how you’re supposed to play him anyway. So I think he’s pretty much perfect, give or take a couple little, minor tweaks here and there on a couple things that I’m not a super-expert at. But I think he’s just perfect right where he is because anytime I’ve been anything more than a quarter health and he gets on me, I can usually find a way to get out of it or get back to the Sentry or get back under turret range. The only issue not really issue that I have with him is when an enemy Pendles just obviously cloaks right off the bat and then just comes and sits in your base behind the Sentry. I guess it’s not really a bad thing because he does nothing the whole time he’s back there. But the one time you’re running back with little health or the Sentry’s getting damage and he can just pop in and just do all that damage. Or take down your Sentry gun or your supply station and then just poof, vanish, and then you have nothing you can do about it. You can’t really displace him unless you’re one of those characters that can see him while he’s cloaked. I mean, it’s not a big deal overall because I don’t think that effects the outcome of matches, but it’s just something that’s really fricking annoying. Maybe if he gets damaged by a turret or he’s in a turret’s range or I wouldn’t say line of sight, but in a little bubble around you…

ERIC: Within proximity, maybe.

MATT: …maybe he’d get revealed or something.

ERIC: Yeah. I did find that quite a bit where some Pendles would go back, like you said, to your base and they would destroy any turrets, any accelerators, anything you got going on and this was Meltdown as well…

MATT: They steal your shards if they could.

ERIC: …and keep it locked down. And then, like you said, if you’re retreating, they would try to pick you off. I respect that, but, like you said, it was troublesome if you couldn’t spot him because then you knew he’s back there and there’s nothing you could do. So basically a strategy at that point was build no turrets, build no accelerators, move forward, rely upon getting on your Sentry. And if you’re in Meltdown, you’re just out of luck. You rely on going to your health globe and hope he’s not there. So, yeah, I did see that a little bit, but I think for the most part people were playing him pretty fair. They do what they’re supposed to, which is go back, pop off those turrets, get rid of those accelerators, pick you off if you’re not with a group, and generally just cause a lot of chaos. And also to what you were talking about, down the left side of his Helix there, it’s all about survivability and then on the right side’s all about the damage. And you can do a hybrid of one and the other, which would basically put you, of course, middle ground. And I do find that if you go full right, you are a force to be reckoned with in the damage department; however, once again, if you’re a character, like say Phoebe, you can just turn around and just wreck Pendles. So it’s definitely a trade-off and vice versa, obviously. If he goes down the left side, he’s getting all that life steal, that health back, et cetera. But, like you said, he’s got no burst damage, so you have plenty of time to disengage, even if he starts to edge out in the battle. So I really find that it’s pretty fair as long as you keep your head about you when he pops in on you and don’t panic.

MATT: Yeah, I definitely agree. I think they did a good job of balancing his damage and survivability, like you said, because he cannot do great burst damage, but he can’t take a lot either. You have to utilize him in a certain way in certain situations, which I think is awesome. He can’t just be, “Oh, he’s just the tank.” “He’s just the damage guy.” You have to sneak. You have to pick your spots. You have got to pick your poison.

ERIC: That was a good one.

MATT: But, yeah, he’s one of those kind of complex characters where you have to understand him, understand how to use him and where to use him, and then do that effectively. I almost never saw that in the few matches I played. I’m sure people are going to get better with him and everything, but it’s just one of those complex characters that I really like to see.

ERIC: On that note, do you think he fits in with the other Rogue characters, especially Deande, and Shayne and Aurox?

MATT: I’d say he fits in well with them. Well, do you mean like just gameplay-wise, or?

ERIC: What I mean as in stealth, like a stealth character. Does he fit in well as the third, real stealth character in the game?

MATT: Oh, yeah. I definitely think he does. He’s so pure stealth. Everyone else has momentary stealth: Oscar Mike has his [Stealth] Generator; Shayne and Aurox can go invis for a little bit; Deande can pop her clone and then be invisible for, like I said, another little bit. But he’s the first pure stealth character where that’s his M.O., that’s what you have to do with him, that’s how he plays. And so I think as that kind of character, I think he’s amazing.

ERIC: I would have to agree with you. The little contention was that he’s a real stealth character while the others seem to be just a perk is that they get to go stealth. But because of his lack of burst and the ability to get away from him whereas if a Deande comes at you full-throttle or a Shayne and Aurox, they can wreck your house. And he just, in my opinion, can’t. And maybe I haven’t gone against somebody who is amazing with him yet. I’ve some videos of them doing really well, but, myself, I haven’t seen it yet. And, quite frankly, I like where it is, so hopefully I have seen the gamut and we don’t come across some people who are just insanely untouchable with Pendles.

MATT: Eric, that’s going to happen as soon as I get back. First game we play, it’s going to be Pendles 100/nothing and 78 and we’re just going to get wrecked. That’s what’s going to happen.

ERIC: Yeah, it will happen. Yeah, once we get our four-/five-man group back together and they start pitting us against the elite again, that’s going to be great.

MATT: Mm-hm.

ERIC: Oh yeah. Well, tying in to how we feel about Pendles and whatnot, I was also going to bring up today, in the future, who would we like to see? What kind of character class and/or architype would we like to be brought into Battleborn? Now, this can be a new architype we haven’t seen or maybe some additions to current architypes that would improve the gameplay and/or make more interesting encounters. I’ve had a little bit of time to think about it, so I guess I’ll go ahead and start by saying I like Ghalt’s whole set up. I love how he’s got the shotgun, he’s got the traps going, and you want to go ahead and draw people with the hook into the traps and then shotgun them in the face. I think it’s a pretty cool concept. And I was going to take that a step further and say we should really get some character classes out there that are more utility, like they can lay down traps sort of like Ghalts, but maybe more expansive that would encompass entire tunnels, and then back out. And then also have, maybe, side-shields for other characters. So if a character’s in an engagement, he can put a shield on said character or maybe make a bubble where once in the enemy player can’t escape for 15 seconds. Just something like that. I think we need a new character type that just focuses on standing back and helping the team out by using shields, traps, other weird mechanisms, stuff like that. I think that would be pretty fricking cool.

MATT: Now, you’ll have to support me on this, but I just want to lay out to everyone out there who’s listening that you brought this topic up to me 15 minutes ago and said, “This is what we’re going to be talking about,” right?

ERIC: Yeah, basically.

MATT: Okay. Well, that is the exact character type I was thinking of. I was going kind of based off Pendles where he has that one role. He’s your sneaky-poo assassin guy. And I was thinking, well, there are so many other characters that we have already, even the Healers, who can go and spec into super-damage and be wrecking shop all over the place, like the times I go 16 and 2 with Reyna and I’m just destroying everybody. But I think it would be awesome to just have one character who is just a buffer, a debuffer, a status effect person, where they’re not throwing out any kind of major damage. Maybe their only attack is just to push you away from them or like Orendi’s Nullify you hit it and it backs you out. But then your abilities are you throw in a slow bubble, a stun bubble, a speed-up bubble, something like that. Just area control and, like I said, buffs and debuffs. That kind of character, I think, where the status effects are the main point of them being there, where even if it’s they don’t even do any damage but they just last a long time and take up not a huge chunk, but a big part of the battlefield where they can actually affect engagements. If you’re going after the Sentry and you throw your bubbles back there and they can’t come up to defend it, that kind of stuff, where you’re not going to get 16 kills as someone who’s typically supposed to be a support, you’re going to be a pure support. You’re back there throwing out, like I said, buffs, debuffs, heals, speed up, speed down, all that kind of stuff. I think that would be amazing.

ERIC: Yep. Glad we agree, as per usual. Another class of character I was thinking would be actually really nice is a berserk-type class character, someone who is a glass house, but can get in close range and just wreck shop. I mean, we kind of have that in some characters, but I’d like to see maybe someone wielding your traditional giant sword and you just go in and you just start going to town. But the minute they lay damage on you, you’re going to be toast. So it’s very important at that point that you take and think before you jump into the middle of a battle or you have a pocket healer or maybe you utilize this new class that we’re thinking of here and get some kind of shield bubbles on you, stuff like that. I think that’d also be kind of fun to see some more melee, berserker, heavy-type class character.

MATT: Yeah. I kind of agree with that and kind of don’t because, like you said, we do basically have characters that are like that, except maybe you just want them dialed up to 11 where it’s just all damage, no health.

ERIC: Exactly.

MATT: Because like even Attikus, they just buffed up his health, and he’s a “go in and throw damage on you” kind of guy, but he can be sort of tank-y-ish, too.

ERIC: Yeah. He can survive an engagement. I want a character to has to, once again, make hard decisions on whether, is it worth me jumping in, getting these three/four kills or is it a bad situation where they know I’m going to come, they’re going to kill me as soon as I land, and I’m going to do nothing. Or at that point, say you’re on Incursion, you can be like, well, I’ll go do the bots, get the bots down instead because right now they see me standing here in the corner waiting to hop in and they’ve got an Oscar Mike with his sights trained on me ready to start laying down some heavy fire. Something like that.

MATT: Yeah, not a bad idea. Like I said, I think the only thing would be that it’s we kind of almost have that, partially. I don’t see that being a big thing that everybody wants.

ERIC: Well, is there anything else that you think would be useful in this universe?

MATT: I’ve been thinking about it since you mentioned it and they have most of I’m thinking back to my League of Legends days because they have very specialized characters and they fit very definite roles. There’s not really any other kind of role I can think of that I would really want. We have good healers. We have good DPS. We’ve got a sneaky-poo assassin now. We have long range. We got melee. We’ve got tanks. And we got hybrids of all that. So I think there’s not really anything else I can think of that needs to be in there. And I’m sure the new characters that are coming will be hybrids or new play styles that I haven’t even thought of and you haven’t thought of. But for now, I think it’s generally balanced pretty well. I don’t think anything’s missing, I think it’s just team combinations now and how well they work with each other.

ERIC: Well, speaking of team combinations, I think a big reason they probably have not put in some kind of utility-based character like that is because currently, and as we’ve said before and others, you don’t know what the enemy’s picking. And that would just wreck the game, in my opinion, if there was a utility-based character and we didn’t know that they’d picked that, and so we didn’t defend against it. And then all of a sudden, “Whoa, hey, look. There she is. Oh, we have no counter to her.” They’re going to go ahead and run this map on us. So I think for that type of character to exist, we would probably need to be able to see what the team composition is on the opposing side prior to that coming in.

MATT: Which is definitely something you and I have talked about for a long time. We’d love to be able to see even if it’s not ordered and Team A gets first pick, Team B gets second pick, and then trade back and forth. If you can at least see who’s going to be over there and counter it like, “Oh, gee. They’re going to have a Pendles,” which is pretty much guaranteed right now, but, “We better have our stealth-detection person. We better have somebody who can seem him, who can find out where he’s at.” And this brings up another thing that the “seeing the team choice” thing. Danie was talking to me a while back, our social media person, and she said it might be a good idea to even have it be and you might have to do this in like a, quote fingers, “competitive queue” or something. But if you’re seeing each other’s characters, maybe in that match they’re unique characters. So if Team A picks a Rath, Team B doesn’t get to pick Rath. If we’re going up against that team of five 100s who are going to smash us and Brian picks Rath and you pick Deande or whoever, that’s who they were going to pick, now they have to pick with their lesser characters and it could be more even.

ERIC: The problem with that, I think, is that you’d be limiting people on picking their character, not only on a one-side scale as it is now, but then on the other side, too. So now you’ve got multiple toons getting picked quickly that the other team now can’t use. I don’t know. I think people might get upset and balk at the fact that they can’t use their favorite character because the opposing team has it. But I understand where you’re coming from in that it’d be difficult to figure out a way to do it legit-ly, except for you pick one, you pick one, you pick one. Because if you’re not if you’re just playing on a PuG and the one guy picks this guy and you know you need a counter, but say you picked first, well, now you’re just hoping and praying that the PuGs that you’re with decide to pick someone who can counter that individual. Otherwise, it’s a loss or, maybe not a loss; I shouldn’t go that far. But you’re at a disadvantage and then you’re going to get what already happens is people going, “Oh, this is over. I’m just disconnecting.”

MATT: Yeah. As soon as you started to say that, I was thinking, well, if Player X doesn’t get a certain character, he’s just going to leave or give up. We have a lot more quitters and lot more disconnects. But at the same time, I think part of the beauty of this game is playing all the different characters and figuring out who fits your fancy instead of just sticking with one single character. So if you had a system like this and somebody picked Reyna and somebody picked Oscar Mike and somebody picked El Dragón, well, I’m going to have to learn how to play Benedict well or I’m going to try out Deande because we need a stealth-ish character and that’s who I feel most comfortable with. I think it would encourage a lot more experimentation and a lot less of just, “I’m just going to play Rath and I’m just going to play Rath. And if somebody picks Rath, I’m going to go away.”

ERIC: Yeah, I hear that. Diversity, as we always say, is the spice of life.

MATT: That’s right.

ERIC: Well, I guess we should leave this to the listeners. What do you guys think? Should there be a visibility on the other end, so you know what you’re coming up against?

MATT: Yes, there should. There should. There should, yes.

ERIC: Should it be one and one and one and one? Should it just be a free-for-all until the timer goes down to nothing? Let us know what you think because we’re interested to see what the community wants to do with that because I do think overall something needs to change a little bit, especially because, as I said, it’ll allow us to diversify and make even more unique characters to go up against in the future.

MATT: Yep, definitely. And speaking of feedback, it’s time to dip into the Mailbag. I got our two random questions from well, from Facebook, Twitter, from any place else. Let me see. We’ve got a question from James on Facebook. He asks, “Who is your favorite Gearbox character and which Hollywood actor would you like to see cosplay that favorite character?”

ERIC: Hm, good question. Well, my favorite character would have to be Tiny Tina, but she’s perfect the way she is. I don’t think anybody could do her justice. What immediately pops into my head, though, is Roland being played by Idris Elba, an actor, if you’re not familiar with him, is currently in the newest Star Trek and he also plays one of the commanders in Pacific Rim. I think he’d make a great Roland. So, yeah, I think that or maybe even Krieg being Dwayne Johnson. That might be humorous. Who knows? But, yeah, a good question.

MATT: As soon as I saw this question and put it in the Mailbag, there’s one character that jumped out to mind, and that is Mr. Torgue. And there’s only one person in Hollywood or the actorsphere right that has both the physique and the charisma to carry that off, and that’s Terry Crews. I mean, sure, he’s not going to look the same as Mr. Torgue, for obvious reasons, but who better than to be a muscled-up, screaming, pumped-up guy. He’d be the Old Spice guy again, but with crazy hair and explode-y stuff. I’d be awesome.

ERIC: That’s something definitely I’d like to hear listeners what they think, who their favorite characters are and who their Hollywood counterparts would be. But I do agree that your pick for Torgue was amazing and would be awesome. So, all right, guys, that’s our two questions…

MATT: That’s not the two questions.

ERIC: No, it’s not our two questions. Son of a b****.

MATT: So our second question today comes from Danie, our social media person, again. She asks, “Do you think there should be a penalty for people who rage-quit and/or surrender a match?”

ERIC: I for sure do. We’ve kind of already harped on this a little bit. But I think that anyone who picks the surrender should be heavily taxed in their points at the end of a well, when the match ends, obviously, because I cannot tell you how many times we go into a match, they get two or three hits, say, on the Incursion, so the Sentry gets hit once or twice. And they’re pushing us and it doesn’t look great, and all of the sudden, surrender, it’s over. We didn’t try. It just, “Oh, hey, this ain’t going our way immediately. I just give up.” I despise that. And I feel that people who vote to do that should just you get nothing. You walk away from that match. Fine, nothing. You get nothing. But anybody who didn’t choose that at least gets the minimum 300, or whatever it is, credits.

MATT: Yeah, I could kind of see it either way because there are some matches that, I mean, we’re just getting stomped and there’s no point in continuing anymore. Like we said, we’re not really entirely sure where the how the rewards are weighted, where they come from, but I think it should be weighted based on how much of the match you’ve completed. If you voted for surrender as soon as you were able to, you should get way-diminished rewards. Versus if you’re going through this grueling fricking match and it’s just not going your way and they’re just sitting there toying with you and you surrender with 5/10 minutes left of the match, then I think you should get more reward than if you did if you surrendered right off the bat.

ERIC: Well, they tried to control it already, didn’t they? They’ve got a timer before surrender even becomes available. And then if it fails, you have to wait another amount of time before you get a second chance. I just don’t think it’s quite enough because, as I said, when you first get going, by time you’re engaged in the middle and by time someone makes a push one way or the other, that timer’s available. So at that moment, you can just give up if it doesn’t look like it’s going your way.

MATT: True, true. The better, the more interesting part of the question that Danie asked is, for people who just rage-quit or just AFK in the base well, I mean, if you get disconnected from a match, because I have honestly gotten disconnected from one, and you try to jump back in, it says, “Hey, your match is still available. Do you want to try and join it again?” But I think you should have no choice but to join it for the duration of that match, whatever it is. And if you’re a frequent leaver they should maybe add that for one of the reporting options, quit or disconnected, because there’s the frequently-idle, but you can kind of get around that by saying, “Oh, my connection’s not that great,” or “I had a pizza man at the door,” or whatever. But if you regularly leave games early and don’t go back into them to finish them, you have got to have some kind of ban 30 minutes, 45 minutes. I don’t know how long they would want it to be because I don’t know the metrics on how often this happens. But I think if you’re a frequent leaver, if you’re someone who does that all the time, you need to be punished on an account-wide basis.

ERIC: I agree. I’m all about harsh and swift punishment. So anybody who disconnects on purpose, doesn’t come back to the match, anybody who’s rage-quitting or standing idle at the base should receive no points. And then to boot, as you said, if it happens often, have some sort of penalization in game as well. Maybe take credits, which would enrage people. There’s the usual, which is ban for suspend the account for three days. But I don’t know. Something. That’d be up to Gearbox, really, but something should happen to them.

MATT: Yeah. There’s basically no punishment that wouldn’t enrage people. But I mean, every other MOBA has systems like this where if you are a troll, if you’re abusive, if you D/C all the time, if you just AFK in the base and you get enough reports, well, generally and I hope this is the case you’re going to get penalized for it. This is kind of a MOBA. That needs to happen here, too.

ERIC: Yes, sir. It sure does. All right, gents and ladies, that’s going to wrap it up for us this week. We’d love to thank all of you for tuning in. It’s just been fantastic. These last few episodes we’ve done, we’ve gotten to see people from all over the world checking us out, and that’s just a super humbling experience. I don’t know about you, Matt, but I’m excited to keep doing these. It’s just awesome.

MATT: Oh, yeah. It’s definitely blown up way bigger and faster than either of us thought it ever would for months and months down the road. I mean, you and I were talking before this last big surge and saying, “Well, if we still had just 10 people listening every week, it would be amazing.” But the numbers are way bigger than that, so we definitely want to thank you guys. We appreciate it. We appreciate the love.

ERIC: Yes, we do. Yes, we do. Also, just want to say, we’d love to get some feedback from you guys, whether it be on topic, whether it be questions for us, just go ahead and go a hold of us via anything we’re on, Facebook, all that stuff. Matt’ll go ahead and give it to you.

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